[discussing China Mieville]
<bogo_lode> i'm thinking more about his books
<bogo_lode> they essentially all have the protags win
<bogo_lode> but in a way that is horrible and despair inducing
<Barcode> and lo, the protagonists won so hard they became the villains and lost to themselves
<bogo_lode> that kinda happens in the squid one